Tuesday, February 17, 2009

The Wholesale RV Dealer Myth…

For many folks, the purchase of an RV or motor home is one of the biggest purchases they will make in their lifetime, with only their home purchase exceeding it.

Naturally, everyone wants the ‘bottom line price’ on any major investment, including a new travel trailer or fifth wheel. The RV industry has capitalized on this desire with many dealers claiming to be a “wholesale RV dealer”. Is there really such a thing? Let’s see…

The word Wholesale means to sell in large quantity or bulk, with the premise being that the ‘savings’ gained by the seller or dealer in this case – having negotiated a better deal with the manufacturer – are passed on to the buyer.

The reality is this in the RV industry, there are large dealers that either carry a large inventory, or they manage their business in such a way that they extend their market reach across the US, Canada, and European markets – enabling them to ‘move’ more product for the manufacturer. As a large RV dealer, they will often buy 10-20 of the same travel trailer or 5th wheel camper from the manufacture, getting maybe up to a $500 per unit discount for the large buy.

As a dealer, you choose to operate on a small volume, larger mark-up per unit or you can try and sell more units with less overall margin per camper. Dealers can also choose to represent multiple manufacturers, or only sell RV’s from a single manufacturer. Those that choose to partner with only one manufacturer obviously have a tighter relationship with that manufacturer – again, hopefully resulting in a savings for them.

While most RV manufacturers claim to ‘prefer’ that their customers buy their RV with their local dealer – there are no regions defined for the dealers. The popularity of the internet has dramatically changed everything. Sites such as Google, eBay Motors, Craig’s list, AmericaOnWheels, iList and others enable a dealer to sell their RV’s on a global scale literally.

What does this mean to the RV Customer?

For you, it means that by doing your research you can save thousands on your next RV, travel trailer or 5th Wheel camper.

The myth is there is no ‘wholesale RV’ dealer in the true sense of the word – that is just marketing gibberish to try and convince folks that they can get their RV’s to the public at wholesale. The truth is that each dealer pays the manufacturer roughly the same price for the campers they sell – again, if they make a large buy on 1 model, sometimes they can get a $200-$500 per unit discount.

Every dealer has the opportunity to sell you a camper at roughly the same price as any other dealer – it all comes down to their overhead in operating their dealership, the profit margin that they as a dealer desire to make, and the business model they have in place (high volume/low margin vs. low volume/higher margin). It is true that dealers that turn a lot of campers can sometimes work with the manufacturer to get a 'rebate' on a unit they just can't sell. Often, the manufacturer will give the dealer monies to move the unit that has been on their lot for an extended time period in exchange for the dealer ordering more, different models after the sell.

Why doesn't every dealer go the high volume / low margin route?

That is a decision the dealer needs to make. To sell 700-1000 RV’s a year at a lower margin requires a lot of dealer prep work, administrative paperwork, and additional overhead ‘headaches’ for the dealer. But, not necessarily, additional personnel overhead. An efficient dealer can sell 800 campers a year with the same staff as they did when they sold 100 campers.

The problem many dealers face today is that for 50 years they sold campers the same way – advertise locally, depend on word of mouth, and repeat business. They based their service, sales and dealership model on this approach. Again, with the internet and current economy – the playing field has changed. Some dealers are adapting, others are refusing to and they will find it difficult to survive. There is nothing wrong with a small, local dealer, operating in this manner, especially if they have a good loyal customer base, solid local reputation and service record.

What about local service?

One of the questions we get often is ‘if I buy my camper from you, will I get service in my local market?’ It is a fair question and the answer is yes, the local dealer will only hurt themselves if they turn you away. Most dealers receive between $90-$120 / hr for service / warranty work they perform. A smart dealer would not walk away from the income and alienate a customer that might buy a camper or camper accessories from them in the future.That and local word of mouth goes a long way - a dealer that makes an enemy locally can count on them telling others.

So, for your next RV purchase, do your homework. Contact your local dealer, give them the opportunity to earn your business, then see how good a deal you received by going on-line.

What to Search for?

When you go on Google – start by searching for the specific RV model that you are interested in. It is always better to start specific when you go online. For example, “Sierra 375QBQ” – then check the price – be sure to take into account the options included with the price. Often ‘wholesale’ RV dealerships will promote a price online that is low, but does not include very many options… Again, do your homework it will save you money.

We hopes this helps. Feel free to ask any questions that you may have – we will be glad to get you an answer.


Monday, February 9, 2009

RV Nation is first dealer to get r-pod’s with slide outs!

Couch’s RV Nation took shipment of the first r-pod models with slideouts today. The rp-174 and rp-175 models have ‘hard shell’ slideouts that extend the interior room by over 25%!

These r-pods were the hit of the Cincinnati RV Show last weekend. To learn more about this lite-weight camper go to our r-pod information blog here: r-pod-camper.blogspot.com


2009 Sierra Fifth Wheel and Travel Trailer Features

The 2009 Forest River Sierra line has made some significant improvements in construction and convenience features. We spoke to Chris Saal, the Sierra factory representative, and he gave us a run down on the new features for 2009.

Interior

Construction Features

5/8” Tongue and groove plywood floor decking

Mahogany hardwood cabinetry (glued and screwed – not stapled)

Raised panel cabinet doors

6’ 4” main slide out height (FW)

6’ main slide out height  (TT)

7’ Interior height on ‘all’ travel trailers

Laminated slide out walls and ceilings

Welded aluminum frame bunk beds – ultra sturdy

King Bed option on select floor plans

Convenience Features

26” or 32” LCD / HD TV

Serta Mattresses Standard

Fantastic Fan in bathroom

15,000 Air Conditioner

50 Amp service with wire and brace for 2nd A/C unit

10 gallon water heater

Extra large holding tanks

LA Z Boy Recliners – exclusive to Forest River

‘New’ hide-a-bed sofa with Air Mattress

‘New’ residential self edged counter tops

Night Shades

100% True Home Water Filtration System

Exterior

Construction Features

High Gloss Gelcoat Fiberglass – highly fade resistant

2” aluminum framed, vacuum bonded sidewalls

High Gloss, Aerodynamic, fiberglass Front Cap

- with maximum turning radius

Heated, enclosed underbelly

Motorized Radius Roof

3/8” ‘Full walk-on’ roof decking

One piece rubber roof w/ 12 year Warranty

6,000 lb Ultra Lube Axles (TT)

5,200 Ultra Lube Axles (TT)

Aluminum framed, laminated and insulated bath deck

Aluminum framed, laminated Front Wall (FW)

Convenience Features

Dometic ‘one touch’ electric awning with adjustable arms

Dual spray ports with 25’ hose

Extra large pass thru storage

Exterior refrigerator on select models

Radius Entry steps

Black framed tinted windows

Equaflex Stabilizer Suspension System

Black Tank Flush

Power tower with battery box


Monday, February 2, 2009

Forest River Surveyor Travel Trailer Difference

One of the most popular campers right now is the Forest River Surveyor. It is a perfect near all season camper – ready to go in all weather conditions.

The Surveyor Difference

2” wall with R-7 Block Foam Insulation

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Not Stapled – Glued and screwed solid core lumber cabinet construction.
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Surveyor Seal Test. Every Surveyor is tested for a tight water seal. The external fiberglass quality construction, enclosed underbelly, and all aluminum frame make the Surveyor line the top quality lite-weight trailer available.
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Ducted Air with ‘quick-cool'2-2-2009 10-24-28 AM

1.5” Tubular aluminum framing in all openings. Provides for a more stable super structure – no other lightweight trailer on the market can make this claim.
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Thursday, January 29, 2009

Forest River Inc. Facts

Forest River, located in Elkhart, Indiana, is one of the leading makers of recreational vehicles (RVs), cargo trailers, buses, boats, and modular homes. Forest River's RVs include fifth wheels, motor homes, tent campers, and travel trailers. The company's Starcraft Bus division converts vehicles for use as hotel shuttle vans, church buses, and wheelchair-accessible vehicles. Its’ Forest River Housing unit constructs manufactured homes branded Sterling Homes and Hart Housing. Forest River also makes pontoon boats. CEO Peter Liegl, who founded Forest River in 1996, sold the company in 2005 to Berkshire Hathaway, the diversified holding company controlled by investor Warren Buffett. (Courtesy Hoovers.com)

Location Type: Headquarters

55470 County Rd. 1
Elkhart, IN 46514
United States

Phone: 574-389-4600
Fax: 574-296-7558

Web Site: www.ForestRiverInc.com

President and CEO: Peter Liegl

CFO: Joe Greenlee

Peter Leigl’s take on the current economy and RV business

Liegl, terms the RV industry’s current downturn as “a godsend” for Forest River. “Let’s say the industry shrunk in half,” he said. “That means there’s still going to be half left, and somebody’s going to get that half, which is still far more than I can produce. But I’m going to get my fair share. We might have to work a little longer and harder, but we are going to get it.”

Liegl said it’s already too late to be making adjustments to cope with the soft RV markets. “It’s not what’s happening today,” he said. “It’s what you did last week and the week before that and last month that is going to determine your results today.”

All in all, Liegl expects that the RV market, despite current setbacks, will recover in short order. “It’s a very cautious individual who buys RVs,” Liegl said. “That doesn’t mean they aren’t going to buy. They might buy something a little less than what they would if the economy was blowing and growing, but this is short term. I’m very confident of that.

“I don’t know why (people are worried). When I say short-term, this year is going to be tough as far as the economy goes. But that’s short term.”

Read more at Bates International RV Blog

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Sierra Travel Trailers

The Forest River Sierra line of travel trailers are well known for their quality build, clean lines and beautiful interior.

In 2009 Sierra redesigned the front cap, making it more aerodynamic. Sierra has teamed up with leading manufacturers Lazy Boy and Serta to provide exclusive appointments. The Dreamscape mattress was designed specifically for Forest River. Other quality features include a fully enclosed underbelly to protect from the elements, high-gloss Gel coated exterior prevents yellowing and cracking, and the welded aluminum superstructure provides stability throughout the frame.

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click to view the 2009 Sierra Brochure

Popular Sierra Models

Couch’s RV Nation Price: $34,334  click here to view the Sierra 365RG fifth wheel

Couch’s RV Nation Price: $25,995 click here to view the Sierra 291LE Travel Trailer

Couch’s RV Nation Price: $33,735 click here to view the Sierra 355QBQ fifth wheel

Click to view more Sierra Fifth Wheel and Sierra Travel Trailers at RV Nation


Monday, January 26, 2009

Wildcat Travel Trailer and Fifth Wheel Campers

The Wildcat line of travel trailers and fifth wheels has established a special place in campers hearts.

The exterior and interior quality, and great floor plans have made the Wildcat one of the most popular campers in the US.

Wildcat Fifth Wheel Floorplans

24RL

25RL

27BH

27RL

28RKBS

28RKSB

29RLBS

30-LOFT

30LSBS

31QBSB

31THSB

31TS

Photo slideshow

32QBBSPhoto slideshow 

Travel Trailer 34RLT

 

Wildcat 2009 Brochure

Manufacturers Web Site www.ForestRiverInc.com 

Wildcat Web Site

Other Wildcat Camper Web sites of interest:

Wildcat Online http://www.wildcatonline.com/

Wildcat Camper Forum  http://www.wildcatcamperforum.com/

Couch's RV Nation Wildcat Page


Wednesday, January 21, 2009

2009 Cedar Creek 36CKTS Fifth Wheel

The Cedar Creeks 36CKTS has a spacious interior, gracious styling, name brand appliances like Magic Chef, and a complete list of standard features.

The Owens Corning Performance Plus Gel coat Exterior, front caps, and entry and baggage doors insure an even one tone color for the life of the trailer.

The 36CKTS floor plan is topped off with the beautiful Wheat Tapestry fabric.

2009 36CKTS Slideshow

The 36CKTS has a large open living area with dual lazy boy chairs in the rear and a sofa/dinette area in the slide-out. The master bedroom has a large queen bed, dresser and extended bathroom with large shower.

Cedar Creek 36CKTS Details

  • Wheat Tapestry Interior
  • Desert Sky Carpet
  • Cedar Creek Explorer Package
  • Carbon Monoxide Detector
  • 3-Slide Room Awning Toppers
  • 12- Cubic Ft. Side by Side Refrigerator
  • Solid Surface Counter Tops in Kitchen & Bathroom
  • Solid Surface Counter Top Extension
  • Free Standing Table with Extension and 4-Chairs
  • 2- Lazy Boy Recliners
  • 8 Lug - 16" Aluminum Rims
  • Selector Switch for Slide Outs
  • Brace and Wire For 2nd A/C
  • 50 Amp Service washer/dryer prep
  • Serta residential queen mattress
  • Dirt Devil Central VAC System
  • MSRP: $72,465
    Avg Dealer Price: $52,000 - $60,250
    RV Nation Price: $46, 950

    More information can be found on our web site: http://www.couchsrvnation.com/inventory_item.asp?id=548579

    Sunday, January 18, 2009

    Couch's RV Nation Weekly Camper Specials

    We were an eBay Motors Top Seller for 2008. Every week we post about a dozen travel trailers and fifth wheels on eBay at rock bottom prices. This helps us move even more inventory, which reduces our costs, and your price!

    To check out what super specials we have on eBay currently go to our eBay merchant site located at: http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/couchsrvnation/

    Visit our eBay site often, we add new campers every couple of days. If you see something you like, give us a call at 513-393-8675 or drop us an email at sales@couchsrvnation.com. Our prices are crazy low, but make us an offer, who knows, maybe you will save even more!

    Thursday, January 15, 2009

    2009 Salem LE 19BH Travel Trailer

    The Salem 19BH travel trailer is a perfect small camper for the beginning camper family manufactured by Forest River in Elkhart, Indiana.

    This 22” trailer is a breeze to tow, weighing less than 4,000 lbs. It sleeps 6 comfortably, has air conditioning, microwave, water heater, 2 burner stove and seamless awning.

    MSRP is $16,186, the average dealer price range: $11,000 - $12,500.

    Floor plan:

    Detailed Photo Slideshow:

    Forest River Salem LE 19BH Details

    Tale of the Tape

    Brochure

    Model 19BH

    Hitch Weight 435 lbs.
    Axle Weight 3,535 lbs.
    Dry Ship Weight 3,970 lbs.
    GVWR 7,435 lbs.
    CCC - Cargo Capacity 3,427 lbs.
    Exterior Length 22 ft. 10 in.
    Exterior Height 10 ft. 6 in.
    Interior Height 80 in.
    Fresh Water Cap 42 Gal.
    Black Water Cap 32 Gal.
    Gray Water Cap 35 Gal.
    Tire Size 14 in.
    Awning Size 12 ft.

    click to view

    The Forest River Difference

    Not all manufacturers are the same. Forest River prides itself on the quality they put into their products. Ask your dealer if their brand has the following:

    • 12" on center 2x3 floor joists
    • 5/8" 5 ply tounge and groove plywood
    • 3/8" walk on roof decking
    • 2" wall construction, 16" on center or less
    • 80" Interior Height
    • Glued and Screwed - not stapled cabinet construction
    • Aluminum framing on all-openings for increased strength.

    Salem LE Standard Features

    CONSTRUCTION AND EXTERIOR
    • Radius Baggage Doors with Thumb Pulls and Holdbacks
    • Full Pass Through Storage (per floor plan)
    • A & E Awning with one piece vinyl
    • Jalousie Windows
    • Steel Framed 30” Smooth Fiberglass Main Entry Door
    • Sofa Exterior Storage Door
    • Fender Skirts
    • Powder Coated I-beam frame
    • Cambered Chassis
    • Enclosed Fresh Water Tank in a Heated Compartment
    • 6-Gal. LP Water Heater
    • Water Heater By-pass
    • Seamless Roto-cast Holding Tanks
    • 2” Wall Construction 16” (or less) on Center
    • R-7 Fiberglass Insulation Throughout
    • 13 ply Cross Micro-Laminated Beam Header above Slide-outs
    • Double Wipe Slide-out Seal (Slide-out models)
    • Electric Slide-Out Systems (Flush Floor)
    • Swing Arm Entry Assist Handle
    KITCHEN
    • Dometic® Double Door Refrigerator
    • High Rise Kitchen Faucet
    • Deep Basin 60/40 Residential Style Sink
    • Microwave with Carousel
    • 3-Burner, High Output Range with Oven
    • Range Hood with 12-Volt Exhaust Fan and Light
    • Armstrong® ToughGuard™ Flooring
    • Rounded Counter Tops with Matching Edge
    • Solid Wood Drawers
    • Knife Rack (behind cooktop)
    • Large Overhead Cabinets
    • Wall-Mounted Systems Monitor Panel
    • Brushed Nickel Hardware
    LIVING ROOM
    • 80” Interior Height Travel Trailers (84” Fifth Wheel models)
    • 69” Interior Slide Height (Slide-out models)
    • 13,500 BTU Roof Air Conditioner
    • Flip Down Storage under Sofa (n/a sofa hide-a-bed)
    • Extra Large 44” Pedestal Booth Dinette (most Slide-out models)
    • Large Dinette Picture Window
    • TV Antenna and Booster
    • Standard AM/FM Stereo w/ CD and 4 Cube Speakers
    • Full Length Extra Large Overhead Cabinets (Slide-out models)
    • Patio Door with Vertical Blinds (36BHSS, 37BHSS2Q, 36BHBS)
    • Decorative wall light
    • 25K BTU Suburban Forced Air DSI Furnace with Thermostat
    • In-Floor Ducted Heat
    • 26” Flat screen DVD TV (TT 27RBEC, 28DDSS, 29BHBS, 29QBBS, 30QBSS, 32BHDS, 28RLSS FW 26DDSS, 26FBSS)
    BEDROOM
    • Strut Lifted Storage Area under Bed
    • Bedside Wardrobes with Drawers
    • Bedside A/C Power Outlets (2)
    • Solid Bedroom Privacy Doors (Most Models)
    BATHROOM
    • 12-Volt Power Bath Roof Exhaust Vent
    • Wooden Medicine Cabinet with Mirrored Door
    • Thetford® Fresh-Water Flush Toilet
    SECURITY AND SAFETY
    • LP Leak detector
    • Smoke Detector
    • Carbon Monoxide Detector
    • Fire Extinguisher
    • Hitch Light (Travel Trailers)
    • Amber Patio Light
    • Welded Heavy Duty Safety Chains (Travel Trailers)
    • Electric Brakes (all wheels)
    • GFI Receptacles

    Couch’s RV Nation Price: $9,995
    click here to view this unit on www.CouchsRVNation.com

    Additional Charges:
    Optional Delivery Charge: $1.30/mi US

    Title, document fee: $200

    Monday, January 12, 2009

    Welcome...

    Welcome to the Forest River camper information blog - sponsored by Couch's RV Nation.

    Check back often for information on Forest River RV's, travel trailers, fifth wheels and lite-weight towables. Couch's RV Nation is an exclusive FR dealership located in Hamilton, Ohio. We will give you in-depth camper information, photos, and care and maintenence tips here.

    If after you have done our research, feel free to get a price quote from us or visit your local Forest River dealer -armed with all the information you need to get your best deal.

    Jeff Couch
    jeff@couchsrvnation.com